|
Post by coaxialcreature on Jul 4, 2007 11:57:07 GMT -5
Hey, Kat, I don't think Locke's evil either - but I see why some people might say that. I'm trying to put it into words, and I just can't right now...
|
|
|
Post by Kat on Jul 4, 2007 15:43:47 GMT -5
Well, that's an entirely different subject. I still think people think Locke is evil because he's so different. If he doesn't conform to w hat's seen as normalcy they don't like him.
|
|
|
Post by ebdim9th on Jul 4, 2007 17:22:05 GMT -5
I think Jack, not Locke is going to wind up betraying everyone to get him and Kate off the island. But then again, John Latham// John Locke? (That might mean Locke winds up having a teenage son, but then again, if Michael is dead, maybe he adopted Walt.) Also, part of the betrayal might involve taking Locke off of the island by force.
|
|
|
Post by Kat on Jul 4, 2007 18:52:26 GMT -5
Er, John Latham? I think you lost me.
I could have seen Jack doing that, but not sure if it's necessary now.
|
|
|
Post by coaxialcreature on Jul 4, 2007 20:29:11 GMT -5
I think it's more because he has a lot of overlapping traits with people who are seen as evil if that makes any sense. And, yeah, part of it is the nonconformity. The outsider as monster. (Think Frankenstein, says the lit major/snob. For the pop culture student, one of the new classics would be Tim Burton's reinterpretation of Frankenstein, Edward Scissorhands. I'm a pop culture student as well...)
As for Jack, I think if he's going to betray everyone, it's already started. But then... does that mean Locke may be in the position of savior? If they're all meant to stay on the island. (I love how Jack thinks they weren't meant to leave, and Kate insists they were supposed to get off.) It'll be interesting to see how that works out.
~Dex
|
|
|
Post by ebdim9th on Jul 6, 2007 16:02:39 GMT -5
~~CoAxe, I think the flashforward implies, that, whether for Kate, or for someone else, or including her in that, Jack might have betrayed some people, Locke especially, on the island for some as yet unknown reason.
~Kat~, some folks seemed to have some pretty good screencaps of the article/death notice Jack had that made it look as if the name on the paper may have read John Latham, who left as his survivor a teen-age son.
|
|
|
Post by coaxialcreature on Jul 6, 2007 17:47:06 GMT -5
I guess I was sorta wishy-washy because I think Jack has betrayed someone in the flashforward. But I'm pretty sure it's going to be more complicated than that - and I have my suspicions, but... I'm not quite finished thinking it through yet.
Obviously, being Lost, if Jack has betrayed them, it's not going to be as simple as that, LOL. And I'm really sucky at guessing what's going to happen - except apparently in my rpgs in which I guessed, like, everything. *snickers*
|
|
|
Post by ebdim9th on Jul 15, 2007 22:26:42 GMT -5
What'd you guess right in your rpg's ~CoAxe? I have a habit of wandering waaaaay off into speculation land, basically making up my own path that doesn't necessarily fit with the facts in evidence. Sort of conjuring up missing story links out of thin air. Sorta like Smokey.
|
|
|
Post by coaxialcreature on Jul 16, 2007 6:21:56 GMT -5
Well, not exactly as the show did it. But I guessed about someone manufacturing the illness before the Lost Experience told us that - or should I say, I didn't play the Lost Experience so I found that out after I had implemented something similar in one of my games - and I also guessed that the failsafe key would play havoc with.... er, not so much time. But it was Desmond's failsafe key that brought everyone to a mental hospital like the one Hurls had been in. (Dimensional shifts instead of time shifts, which was before Flashes Before Your Eyes airs. And just ask Kat how much I hate spoilers I try not even to watch the previews.) I was like... The co-owner in my NH game was joking around but she was like, smirk, it's not Desmond who's psychic, it's you. Okay... so maybe that wasn't everything. But it was some pretty d**n big stuff, in my humble opinion. Stuff I usually swing and miss on, so yay for me this time. (I missed on Sawyer's kid. In HoB, the Sawyer player and I decided to give him a son, LOL.)
|
|
|
Post by Kat on Jul 16, 2007 12:18:02 GMT -5
That's pretty cool, Dex. That's the fun thing about RPGs, you can make up whatever you want.
|
|
|
Post by coaxialcreature on Jul 16, 2007 14:19:10 GMT -5
Thanx : D And yeah, it is... I found someone who's as dark as I am. (Gah... not that the b*tch is on anymore. sighs.)
And yeah, that's the neat thing about RPGs. And fanfic : D
|
|
|
Post by Kat on Oct 15, 2007 6:18:59 GMT -5
Hey, speaking of guessing things!!! *Cue Twilight Zone music* I wrote a fan fic some time ago that Anthony Cooper was on the island and he was even more of an arse than before. Er.... Scary!
|
|
|
Post by ryanbrownrjb on Nov 22, 2007 14:27:42 GMT -5
I honestly believe that as a character John would probably do anything not to leave but i also dont think he would stop others from leaving. Which is a dilemma for the poor guy. What would you do?
|
|
|
Post by Kat on Nov 23, 2007 12:45:34 GMT -5
I think it depends on what's going on, personally, Ryan. If Locke feels the island is threatened and the people on it, then he might do what needs to be done to prevent anyone from leaving. However, if everyone, including the island, would be safe, then I don't think he'd prevent anyone from leaving.
|
|